Time We Discuss: Being a Real Exorcist (Laura Van Tyne)

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Laura Van Tyne: A couple hundred years ago, we did not believe in bacteria or viruses, we did not believe that washing your hands could save your life, right? It's the same concept.

Dan: Today, on Time We Discuss I want to welcome Laura Van Tyne, and it's time to discuss what it's like being an exorcist. Laura, thank you for joining me today.

Laura Van Tyne: Hey, thank you very much. Yes, it's not something that most children grow up dreaming to be right?

Dan: Not at all. And fingers crossed. Hopefully after this episode, we'll give people one more option they can explore professionally, which I love.

Laura Van Tyne: There you go.

Dan: So let's start kind of at the beginning. I know, before we corresponded a little bit, and you said you were originally a middle school teacher, and you left that to go with your current pursuit. So let's talk about that transition first. And then we're going to dive into this hard with what it's like being an exorcist.

Laura Van Tyne: All right, so middle school teacher. We have three kids married the whole normal Southern California middle class lifestyle. And one of our kids kept seeing and hearing things. And I was pretty psychic as a kid myself. And I'm like, there's something going on here. Long story short, the lower astral the hell's just descended upon our home. And it was like, I didn't know what to do. It was so bad. It was like, we were living inside of a Hollywood horror flick. And the credits never ended, for 10 years. So this is 20 years ago. The internet is not what it is. Disclosure is not what it is all the things I mean, I was on the precipice of I didn't know what I spent most of my time kissing all the psychic frogs, the shaman to this that trying to find answers. Most of what I learned was what didn't work.

Dan: So let's hang on that. I'll hang on that. What are some of those things that did not work?

Laura Van Tyne: Oh, the biggest one sage sage is just a load of CRAP. Okay. Sage is great for sausages ceremonies. You know, it's antimicrobial, it's antiseptic, it's antibacterial, but it will not remove a demon. Think about this sage is simply a bunch of dried crispy leaves on a shrub. Okay, we burn it, we smoke it and we're expecting miracles. We've been taught that there's all these miracles that come with sage. It is really good for Native American ceremonies and things like that. That's totally different. But we've given it so much false power. It's dangerous. So sage does not work. Think about this. When the Christ child was born, the three magi, the three magicians, the three wise men gave him what?

Dan: Gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Laura Van Tyne: Bingo, right? Gold makes sense, right? It has a monetary value, but it's also high frequency. So why did the three wise men give the Christ child tree sap? Right? It's high frequency. They did not give him sage for a reason. The resins of a tree, it's the sap of the tree, the life blood force of the tree. And when the tree is an ancient high frequency tree, it has more spiritual horsepower to it. We're looking for spiritual horsepower. So I would say sage is the biggest misnomer. If you are trying to clear your home, try frankincense resins for starters. Frankincense oil for starters, throw the sage away. And I'm gonna make enemies out of this. But I think by the time I'm done with it, people like, Oh, that kind of makes sense. So but those people hanging on hard to their bundles of sage, it just it doesn't have that horsepower.

Dan: So going back to your story, okay, your child was experiencing some psychic phenomenon. Things are going crazy in your house. What happened next?

Laura Van Tyne: We all have these defining moments in life, right? We know exactly where we were for 9/11. We know exactly where we were for whatever these events. My defining moment was it's about I'm thinking two or three in the morning, I can't fully remember. And my little girl comes racing down the hallway, just like you can hear little footsteps going down the wood plank hallway. She leaps into bed and I'm holding her like this for all your moms and dads and aunts and uncles and grandmas and grandpas, you know what that's like. And their heartbeat is beating so fast, you can feel it through your body, right? And she whispers really loudly in my ear and she goes, Mommy, Mommy, the shadow men are in my room. And they said they're going to steal my soul to break you. She was six years old.

Dan: So I'm curious, at this point in time, did she have a concept of what a soul was? Was that already been? No, okay.

Laura Van Tyne: No, six year olds don't. It's not, you know, they want to go play in the sandbox, they want to go swimming, they want to go do the things. But we had this all these different negative, nefarious presences roaming around our home all the time. I didn't know why at the time, but we'll go into that because I fast forward, you know, hindsight's great. So I'm holding her and terrified, right? And it was that moment in time that I realized two things about fear. Fear in small doses keeps us safe. Oh, don't turn left or oh, wait for the light, you know, fear in large doses can be paralyzing. Okay, it stops us from moving forward. And it was all I could do to summon up to reduce that paralyzing fear and not give it to my daughter. Because everything is energy, right? Energy doesn't have boundaries. I can take this cup of hot tea and the energy of the hot tea is coming through the cup, right? We can feel this is just energy. So how do I keep my fears from latching on to my daughter? Okay, that was the biggest thing. And that was my defining moment. And I'm not kidding you. When I say I didn't sleep for five or six years, I did not sleep. I was afraid that if I fell asleep, something bad would happen to her or anyone else in my family. I slept with one eye open. I justified the fact that if I got two consecutive hours of sleep in a day, that was enough. It was a life of torture. And shortly after that, I stopped teaching because I had to figure this out. How do I save my family's soul?

Dan: Okay, so you're done teaching. What do you do next? How do you how do you resolve this? Because I mean, like that it's at this point, you said your daughter was six at the time, it went on for a number of years. How do you well, actually, before that, what do you what do you say to your child? Because internally, you're like, I don't I don't know what I'm going to do, but you try to keep them calm as well. Like, how do you how do you have that conversation? What's that like, having the the confliction of what's being said versus what you're thinking?

Laura Van Tyne: First of all, I couldn't lie to her. I could never say it's going to be all right. Because I didn't know if it was going to be all right. Okay. And she saw me working. And I said, look, and literally, and I'm a public school teacher. And so there's this thing called child protective services, right? So I really have to make sure my family safe in the lower astrals and also in the 3d world because as a teacher, I know, when there's something like this going on, our medical profession wants to give us psychotropic drugs, and I'm not playing doctor here, okay. But this problem was not going to solve that. Or excuse me, those drugs would not solve this problem. Okay. And so, and I included her and my family and like what I'm studying, what I'm learning, I'm trying to figure it out. I'm reading every book I can possibly think of the Tibetan book of living and dying, your rancha, everything in between to figure these things out, I would work, I would call other psychics, I would and most of the times the psychics would say, well, this problem is bigger than what I know, I can't help you. I mean, nine times out of 10. I can't help you. And I finally found somebody who could be of help. And it was a game changer for me. And then the problem outgrew that person also. I mean, it was like a flipping nightmare. I remember we went to an art showing in Encinitas, California was a Middle Eastern art show Middle Eastern artist, I think it was Iranian, this is like 20 years ago. And we come home. And we've got this four foot by five foot acrylic painting. Acrylic is a fancy word for plastic, right? In acrylic painting, and it's beautiful. And we opened the door and we watched this finger poke mark from the inside out go about five inches. And we're like, standing at the front door. Whoa, what? And the finger poke mark never retreated. And so it was nothing for us to have dishes kind of fall off the counter. Okay. That was like the easy stuff. And so, you know, as a married couple with children dealing with this, you can't hire a babysitter to go out to dinner. Right? You can't go on like a weekend vacation with your spouse. Because first of all, it's kind of like the movie The Incredibles, where the babysitter has that little Jack-Jack baby, right? Yes. I mean, that's kind of what we felt like.

Dan: So did all the activity come stay within the house? Did it ever follow you out? What was what was that like?

Laura Van Tyne: It followed us. And it was primarily after me and one of my children in particular. And I would be driving down the road. And I've got brand new brakes on my car. And I go to break and my feet go to the floor with the brakes. I have to literally put my car in neutral to park. I mean, I've that was common. The radio station would flip this is 20 years ago, and people listen to radio, right? They would flip around. I had to be very careful with my daughter at school because things would happen. You know, I remember one time, and the teachers, they knew me personally, because I was one of them, right? And I stopped teaching. So nobody really knew why it's just so my husband's business is getting busy kind of thing and which is true. And I was helping him too. But there was this moment in my daughter's classroom, where everybody's doing one of those state tests or whatever. So it's really, really quiet, right? Nobody's speaking a word. And her radio system just cranks up to heavy metal. And everybody jumps. And my daughter says, Yeah, that was it with his name was he called himself Steve-O. Hey, my name is Steve-O and I like to par-tay. This was a ghost. Okay. And this ghost was just a pain in the ass. I didn't know what to do with ghosts then either. So they would follow us around. Absolutely.

Dan: Wow. It's interesting. I was talking to my daughter the other day, we were driving back from somewhere, a gymnastics competition, actually. And we're driving back and the paranormal came up. And I was giving my views on and I was saying, you know, for me, it's, you know, I'm very open minded. You know, I felt there's so much we don't know about the world and the universe and everything. And I said that, you know, the one thing that always gives me pause is when more than one person experiences that thing. It's so easy when something happens in the middle of the night, and I'm the only one that witnesses it's like, I'm sleep deprived it's this, it's that, but we have things that happen where it's like, whoa, did you just see that too? And until someone has that experience, they just it's all it's all, you know, hogwash.

Laura Van Tyne: It's hard to wrap your brain around. So let's go back a couple hundred years. A couple hundred years ago, we didn't and this is where my teaching career, I think lends itself well to this profession, the ability to bring a logic trail to the woo woo crap, okay. A couple hundred years ago, we did not believe in bacteria or viruses, we did not believe that washing your hands could save your life, right? It wasn't until the invention of the microscope, that we could see these little critters that are naked eye couldn't see. It's the same concept. literally that simple. And now we're getting more sophisticated cameras on our phones and other things where we can catch things. I'm a property, I've got a, a portal that I keep trying to shut down all the time, because they keep wanting to break through. And so I put a trail camera there to check out the activity. And I've got some interesting photos, let me tell you, and it's not just like raindrops or like little, you know, dust falling through. So it's there. And whether we believe in it or not, this unseen, energetic world has an impact on us.

Dan: what do you say to the person and I think I know exactly what you're going to say. But what do you say to the person that says to you like, Oh, that's this just it's dust on your camera, the sensors malfunctioning, it's this that the other? What do you what do you say to that?

Laura Van Tyne: You know, I love people who are skeptical and doubters, right? Because what it does is it challenges my belief system, my structure, my right, it does. I'm never going to get angry with somebody about well, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, you know, it may be, I don't know, I, you know, half the time we can't reproduce it. But when you wake up with little bite marks and scratches on your body, and like, there's a reason for that. Or getting choked. I was choked once right here so hard, I'm home alone. I literally passed out. And I could feel it and I could feel the presence I could feel it. I'm like what and I didn't know what to do. But it hit that soft tissue right there and it just was like and then it left three fingerprints just three right here.

Dan: So let's take a turn. Let's talk about the because I could I could listen to you talk about these stories all day because I love this stuff. But have to have to talk about the business side of things. So so let's talk about more about that you actually doing this as a profession you helping other people. How does that all work? How did you get started doing that?

Laura Van Tyne: As angry as I was with God at the time, how could you let this happen? Right? What I learned was, this was my training ground to do what I do. So my teaching career, I learned how to teach I learned how to communicate, right? And I and I was a Spanish teacher also. So I understand second language acquisition and things like that. And I'm a math teacher. Math plays an integral part in the work that I do. And we have to study every profession has to study and all these psychics running around saying I just know frankly, they're dangerous. Okay. How do you know why do you know? So with my teaching career, fast forward, I realize that I'm not the only one that has these types of problems. Because as I'm searching, I'm getting people reaching out to me, can you help me? Can you help me? And I'm thinking, I'm supposed to be doing this full time. And I had to go back and redo everything. So I'm a teacher, I don't know much about I'm gonna say the business structure of the world, although I'm pretty business savvy, always have been, but you know, coming up with, you know, who's my ideal clients, and because the gamut is all kinds of things. The gamut is like, it could be a 20 year old kid, it could be a 75 year old man and everything in between, because they all have something happening that creates a blockage in their life. That's the biggest thing I get from people. I'm blocked, I don't know why. I'm getting attacked, I don't know why. And so when I say exorcist, what I'm doing is I have the ability to remote view, which means I can transfer my consciousness to a different time, space and dimension or location. I can remote view in real time. I don't do that because it's a violation of spiritual law, like I would never like peek around your house. Okay. You just don't do that. There are some people that think that's okay. And that's just not cool. It's no different than in the third dimension, somebody breaking into your house. It's the same thing. I remote view in the lower astrals. So I'm working with somebody. So my typical client has a blockage. And I have a process where me, it was extremely important that I know and understand what was going on. Because I would have all these psychics and people say, Oh, well, your dead dad is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and oh, this and oh, that it's like, how do you how do I know? You're just telling me stuff. So I have a process where I work with you. And we work as a team so that we can see what's happening. I essentially teach you how to remote view. And how do we find these blockages? And what are those blockages? And then we remove the blockages, we clean it up. And we close the door, always close the door. And we also can work with a person's higher self spirit guides, that kind of thing, we can work in the higher realms. Doctors have to scrub down first, right? They wash your hands. Same thing, clean your workspace before you talk to the higher realms. It just it's better that way. So in this process, you get to see and sense what's happening. Because you get that validation, but also you get to learn a lot about how to keep yourself clean and clear at the same time. So that's how I work. And I learned this because I was frustrated with people telling me what they thought they should know. And I want to segue to these blockages. A blockage could be maybe you've got a bunch of ghosts in your home. Maybe you've got some reptilian entities and nefarious aliens, maybe you've got I mean, it could be the gamut. And there's in this process, there are cues and clues that I look for all the time.

Dan: What are some of those?

Laura Van Tyne: One thing is when somebody's feet don't look like their feet, there's something kind of attached to them. Okay, that tells me there's something attached to them. And I don't want to go too much into detail, because I don't want to like plant false reality with somebody. But that's, you know, one of those things. So I'm so blessed to do what I do now. I never in a million years thought it would be doing this. But I am so fortunate and blessed because I get to help people every day in an unusual manner.

Dan: That is awesome. That is completely awesome. Okay, so if someone wants to do what you're doing, I suspect the traditional higher education route is probably not going to give them the training that they need to do what you're doing. So that being said, if someone wants to do what you're doing, the paranormal speaks to them and they want to do they want to help people? How can they learn? Well, first off, can they learn it? Or is it something that's more innate? How can someone do what you're doing?

Laura Van Tyne: Both. So if they want to learn it, you got to study how to keep yourself safe. You're on an airplane, you put the oxygen mask on yourself first for a reason. You got to study I have three books out. The first book is a a small book. But it's Soul Tribe Navigating the Spiritual War and it gives people tools they can use to learn how to protect themselves. You got to learn how to protect yourself first. If you can't protect yourself first, guess what? I'm working with you. I'm not protected. Now my junk gets imparted upon you. That is spiritually criminal, frankly. So there's a lot of things we got to learn how to protect ourselves. I do have online classes and I'm actually starting this summer, later this summer, to teach online, live zoom classes how to do some of these things. I'm in the process of creating that because I'm getting a lot of demand for that. We're in this area now where there's a more of an awakening about these elements, right? And they're everywhere. They've been everywhere. And when we can learn to remove them, it keeps us all in a safe space.

Dan: thing that I don't like to talk about on my show is money. But when I was speaking with Joshua Chaires, he was a paranormal investigator. And I spoke with Holly, her last name eludes me, but she was an occult researcher. And I asked them, do you get money for doing your services? And both of them said no. And it's very common in the paranormal world that it's all without pay that you have to supplement in some other way. Is that true for you as well? Or not so much?

Laura Van Tyne: No. I get people that get angry with me that I have to charge, okay, I have to earn a living. I do this full time. I actually do this seven days a week, I probably have 30 to 40 clients every week. And I'm booked out a month. We pay our doctors, we pay our rent or mortgage, we pay for food. Why is this any different? I have spent 10s of 1000s of dollars figuring out what worked or didn't work, most of which is what didn't work. I'm saving people that time, right to figure things out. But also, I mean, I've got people whose lives have been turned around for literally $200 or whatever whatever the service is, right. And when I work with somebody because we're dealing with the paranormal, it says that the sessions on my website are 60 minutes. But let's be honest, if I'm dealing with a bunch of reptilians, and it's 61 minutes, I can't stop. It's not like I'm a therapist. That ain't cool. So we just keep going. We just keep going till it's done. So yeah, I'm, you know, there's this spiritual belief, there's this belief system with a lot of people that oh, you shouldn't charge. If you don't charge, you're creating a karmic imbalance. Okay, money is currency, it is a current. It's an exchange of energies. I'm really glad you brought that up. Because what happens is, if we don't charge or get some type of return on investment, we're putting ourselves out of balance karmically. That's it's as simple as that.

Dan: I'm glad one that you answered that I'm also glad you answered in the way that you did. Because I think it's really cool when you get these very obscure jobs. And you think, I can't make a living doing that. It's got to be a side hustle. I got to do it. And you know, outside of my regular 40 hours a week or whatever. So it's neat to hear that there is this this more obscure job out there. And you can in fact, make a living doing it. And to hear that you see, I forgot how many clients you said, you know, in a given day, week, whatever was that, but they are booked out a month. That's really, I hate to say for those people. But that's really cool to hear that you can in fact, do this as a living really, really neat.

Laura Van Tyne: What I hear a lot from people, and I this is what I always hope that I can be is of truth and integrity of working for the higher source of working for God, whatever you want to call it. When I'm dealing with these demons, and they could be they could be black magicians, they could be a hat man, if we've ever seen the man with the hat with the shadow men, they could be reptilians, they could be insect, I mean, it could be many things. I have to make sure that I am clean and clear. And I don't have cracks in my foundation to better serve. There have been times where I have to cancel some clients not often, because I feel like I'm contaminated. I would be remiss if I were to say, let's just do it. Right? If I'm contaminated, it's no different than getting on an airplane and sitting next to somebody that's coughing their lungs out. It's like, yuck, right? Same thing. These things are parasites. They're no more than parasites. We give them too much power because we can't see or sense them as we do the 3D world.

Dan: Briefly, what are some things that people didn't do to keep themselves safe from any like wandering hitchhikers, for lack of better words?

Laura Van Tyne: Okay, in that book, I mentioned Soul Tribe Navigator in the Spiritual War, there's two prayers, one to cross over ghosts, one to cross over dark entities, they're very helpful. Sometimes people need more than that. Learn to call upon your angels. Angels have been gifted to humanity to help us. They cannot help us if we don't ask. I am asking for a team of angels from the higher realms to come and remove these ghosts that are with me, these this entity that's with me to help clear me, to help me to see, you know, call upon your angels, it's free. And they can't do anything unless you ask. And the more you call upon them, the more you grow your spiritual team, the more you connect to God, the divine. Angels are in karma too. So if they're just standing around you twiddling their thumbs, and you're waiting, oh, my problem's not big enough, or, oh, I'm, you know, I can't ask right now, I'm not worthy, or whatever these like false things we've been talked about. We're wasting their time too. We're actually harming the angels in a weird kind of way. Ask for a good parking spot. Ask for a great sale on school clothing for your kids. Ask. Don't ask that you get the job over somebody else. Ask that you they help you choose wise words. Ask that they help clear the communication lines between you and the person getting interviewed. That is a proper ask not saying make sure I get this job angels can't do that.

Dan: That is awesome. I love to hear that. Laura, that I am running short on time. But one thing I like to do whatever I'm speaking with someone, I like to give them the opportunity to talk about a project they're working on, a cause they believe in their business, their books, you have quite a lot of things to choose from. But regardless, the floor is yours.

Laura Van Tyne: All right, well, thank you. On my website, I have about 100 blogs that I write every single week that gives you all kinds of information. Not everybody can afford services. I try to do the best sometimes I'll come up with a sliding scale or something there has to be some kind of karmic exchange. The website is TheKarmicPath.com. But it's also going to be LauraVanTyne.com because I'm in the middle of a rebrand. So my services, the blog, those things are LauraVanTyne.com. The online classes I teach are the karmic path and we're working on certifications and stuff like that to help people take their power back. It's about being able to take your power back to have a sovereign soul, a healthy soul. We talk about our health all the time, right? Our mental health, emotional health, physical health, financial health, our soul health. What's that, right? It's the most important aspect of us. So those are the things you can find me on social media or just even just Google my name and I'll be kind of like all over the place. So thank you for that.

Dan: Laura, that is absolutely awesome. I'll make sure I get all those links from you. I'll put them in the show notes. I'll be on the website that we all over the place. So when people are trying to find you, they can easily find you.

Laura Van Tyne: Thank you.

Dan: Again, it's been awesome having you on Time We Discuss and we learned what it's like being an exorcist.

Laura Van Tyne: Thank you very much.