Time We Discuss: Animal Telepathy and Communication with Karen Wickerson

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Karen Wickerson: And then when I get validation from the clients, like, okay, I would never have guessed that, that's impossible. Some of the stuff that I hear from the animals, I can't make up, for instance...

Dan: Today on Time We Discuss, I wanna welcome Karen Wickerson and it's time we discuss what it's like having animal telepathy. Karen, thank you for joining me today.

Karen: Well, thank you so much for having me. I was really looking forward to being here and meeting you, so this is great.

Dan: This is gonna be an awesome conversation. I love anything weird, and that is not quote unquote normal, so I use the term weird very lovingly, so I'm really excited about this.

Karen: Well, weird, it's the woo-hoo world, that's for sure.

Dan: So let's start at the beginning. How did you get involved in this particular, dare I say, industry?

Karen: I started talking to animals when I was three, and I remember the first time. And I remember the feelings that I got when I was on, I was at a birthday party. I was put on this horse, and immediately, there was this connection, and I just knew at an instinct, so instinctual. And it was like the words of just like, "I've got you, don't worry," and I didn't quite understand. I mean, I was a kid, I was only three, right? But I just had this immediate connection to the horse. And then throughout my childhood, just animals would be talking to me. It's like, "Hi," or "Tell my mom this," so I would just say it, and thinking that everybody could talk to animals, like, "Why not? You're a kid, you can believe in anything. But then over time, unfortunately, this is back in the 70s, so there wasn't much awareness in this field, and that friends' parents would say, "Oh, you're hanging out with crazy Karen." They just didn't understand, right? It was like, Hah. So as I got older, I wanted to start fitting in, and I started shutting down that ability. I became a teenager, I didn't lose the ability, because the ability is always within you, but I just shut it down in order to belong, right? And it wasn't until I was in my early 30s when I was working on a horse now, this is called Healing Touch for Animals. People hear about Reiki or energy work. Reiki works, there's a few techniques that can be used, but I specifically studied Healing Touch for Animals using the animals' energetic field to help them shift behaviors, trauma, that sort of thing. And when I was working on this particular horse, I felt this overwhelming sense of sadness, and the tears, I couldn't understand why I was crying. I mean, I had tears coming down my face, I'm like, "What the heck?" Well, as it turned out, she had a foal, the foal was sold, but nobody told her that her baby is gone and never to be seen again. So when the humans who were her guardians, I told them like, she thinks that her foal was stolen. And I said, "You need to apologize." And I'm just instinctually doing this. Like, I had no idea. And I was like, it felt familiar. And it's like, I don't really quite understand what I'm doing here, but they apologized. And there was a lot of healing that took place, and the horse was able to do her job, which was championship dressage. So, you know, she wasn't behaving. And then we had this conversation, there was a lot of healing for the horse. Now she understood what happened to her foal, and then she was able to continue on. So that was the beginning, and that was back in 2012, I'd say. And then from then on, I couldn't turn it off, nor did I want to turn it off. And how it works is that the animals talk to me as if I'm talking to you, it's that easy for me. And I hear everything they hear, I see everything they see, I feel everything they feel emotionally, physically. They show me things in pictures, they show me things in moving pictures, and I hear words and sentences. And that comes to me all at once. So I have to interpret really quickly what's going on. And there's this energy exchange between the two of us, and I use my heart because animals speak from their heart. So I have to shut off my mind, the thinking mind, that goes and goes and goes, and get connected and centered and grounded in order to have that conversation with them, using my third eye. Because that's where I connect, it's through the third eye and my heart. So that's the gist of it. It's taken quite a while, I mean, for me to really fully confidently be able to do this as a job, to write a book. I keep saying I didn't write the book, the animals wrote the book because they just channeled right through me. And I typed so fast that I was able to capture everything that they had to say and what they want humans. They want humans to know about their living experiences, about how they perceive life, how they experience life and death, how they want to live with humans. And the biggest message is that, you know, animals are sentient beings and they are equal to us. And we walk in tandem together on this earth and they want to be treated like equals. They want to be seen as sentient beings and not just something to be owned and something to be dictated to. That's not how they want to live their life.

Dan: You talked about shutting it down essentially when you were younger and then allowing it to come back into your life, we'll say. What kinds of things did you do to, I don't want to say reinforce it, but kind of like give it more strength? What are some things that you did to do that?

Karen: Yeah, that's a good question. I had to trust my intuition. I had to trust myself. It's an inner knowing that what's coming to me is the truth. And that took a lot of work because, you know, we shut off our intuition. We shut off our instincts. You know, we second guess everything. And it really took a while for me. It's like, did I actually hear that correctly? Is that right? So I had to, as I was turning things back on within me, I had to get, you know, in touch with some coaches. You know, I did some lessons to reintegrate all that back in. And the biggest one is that you have to be open-minded and you have to trust what you're hearing and what you're seeing and trust your intuition because that's how they talk. That's how they connect with us. So those are the biggest things that I really had to grow within myself. And I still question myself at times. And I was like, really? And then when I get validation from the clients, okay, I would never have guessed. I would never have guessed ... that's impossible. Some of the stuff that I hear from the animals, I can't make up. For instance, one cat was telling me, where am I going to live when my parents separate? And so I didn't know that they were in the middle of separation talks. I said, look, this is pretty sensitive. You've got kids in the room. You may want to get the kids to leave before I ask this question. And sure enough, they said, how did you know? I said, well, your cat just asked me, who am I going to live with when you separate? I can't make that up. Right? So it's trusting. Trusting yourself is the biggest, biggest thing. And it's, yeah, it's hard to do. I mean, we're not socially supported to trust our intuitions. Does that make sense?

Dan: That makes sense to me, yes. This is going to sound like an odd question, but I'm very curious. So you talk about hearing them, okay? So one, does it sound like it's coming from outside or does it sound like it's coming from internally? That's the first question. And then going along with that, is it a voice? Do you actually hear a voice or is it more of, I'm so fascinated by this. It's so interesting. So take it away with that.

Karen: Yeah, yeah. So the first question, how do I hear it? Well, it comes to my left ear. I hear it in my left ear. So I know that energy flows through us from the left side and out the right. So I always hear the voices through my left ear and it comes into my mind. It's not like I'm hearing you externally right now. I hear it on the left side. When it comes to, sorry, what was your second question?

Dan: Is it more of like actual voices or more like, I guess ideas are constant, it is, okay.

Karen: Yes, yes, yeah. I talked to, I had one client, she had to tell her goat that they were moving from Vancouver to 10 hours away East and that she had to behave in the car. And this is what she, and she said, I need you to tell her what she can expect, driving in a car for 10 hours and how often we'll have breaks, when she can eat, and that I can't have her moving all over the car and she needs to be just stationary. And she was talking to me in an English accent. I had a cat who was in a rescue situation. It was a male cat, he was a big guy. He was a tom cat. So he came in unneutered, so he had the big cheeks, right? And his voice was a trucker dude. So I couldn't get my voice deep enough because what happens is I take on their persona sometimes. I couldn't get my, it was just so funny. He was a trucker dude. And they come to me how they wanna be presented. So the trucker dude had just a cut off t-shirt on him and the English, the goat with the English accent, she came to me with a knitted sweater that a granny would make. So it's like they got these personalities that is just so funny. So I describe how they look to their humans as they come to me. So interesting.

Dan: Okay, so let's talk about getting started doing this, okay? So how did you actually, well, okay. So let me actually start with this question. And I think I know the answer to this, but I'm gonna ask it anyway. I generally don't like to talk about money. That being said, is this more of a hobby or is this actually an occupation?

Karen: Oh, that's a really good question. I'm glad you asked it. So when I first started out, I was a family clinical counselor. I have a master's degree in applied behavioral science, otherwise known as family clinical counseling. And I was working with families that are at risk of losing their children for many reasons. And then I did family support to help families cope, you know, when their unit is falling apart. So those counseling skills, the mediation skills that I developed over the 11 years I was doing this for a local family agency helped me to be able to do the work that I do, but I couldn't just skip and say, okay, bye guys, I'm doing this now. I mean, really, there isn't much money to begin with because you have to develop a network. You've got to get your name out there. You know, people are like, you do what? It's like, yeah, I talk to animals. So I started for free just to practice to, you know, I started at the Vancouver Orphan Rescue, the Orphan Kitten Rescue Association, VOKRA, Vancouver Orphan Kitten Rescue Association. So I started with them and I practiced, you know, and I would say, okay, this cat wants to be named this, this dog, sorry, this cat wants to be named this way. Or I would explain to the cats why they were at this rescue and what was gonna happen. And the feedback I got was that they were always calmer after I left because they can expect what was gonna happen. They had no clue why they were there. So it was all volunteer and a lot of free stuff. And then my name started getting out there. Oh, we need to talk to Karen. I'm like, okay, well, now I'm spending a half hour to 45 minutes, you know, a few times a week. And so I started at a nominal fee of 30 bucks, I think, you know, while I was working full time. And then it got to the place where as I developed the network and clients, I had to go to part time. And then I upped my fee. And then I would say, it's taken 10 years to be able to do this full time with a reputation globally.

Dan: I love hearing this. So whenever I speak to someone, then they have very unconventional jobs and they tell me they're doing it full time. I love that. Cause it's so much opportunity for so many different people. And that's gonna lead me to this question. So you said you've had this since you were three.

Karen: Yes.

Dan: Okay. So do you, I don't know if you know this or not. Is it possible for someone who may not have this to develop it or it's like, you have to be born with this skill and then develop it? What's your take on that?

Karen: Yeah, good question. Anybody can do this, but you have to, number one, believe in yourself. You have to be open-minded and you have to trust your instincts and intuition. And you have to trust that what you're hearing and seeing is real. So when I say anybody can do it, I mean, it's kind of like anybody can swim, you just have to learn. Now there's Olympic swimmers and there's people who can dog paddle, right? So it depends on where you wanna be on that spectrum. And I would say go to any animal communicator who has a great reputation who offers classes. There's a few of them in the States who I would recommend and just start practicing. Practicing on friends' animals, you don't know that well. And it's like really, when you start trusting yourself in life, it also opens up that pathway too, to trust what you're hearing and seeing.

Dan: This is gonna be a bit of an odd question I think, but maybe not, I don't know. Does the type of animal matter? Is it easier to speak with some over others or it doesn't, they're just like any other creature, it's no.

Karen: No, I talk to all animals and they're all equal in terms of the ease in which I talk with them. What's difficult are wildlife. Wildlife would right now, they don't trust us. They will educate, like I've had some conversations cause I live in the Pacific Northwest and Vancouver and we've had, a few years back, we had a mother who lost her calf and she carried her calf after she passed for, I can't remember, it was a very long time. I wanna see 17 days and nights. I can't remember, you can Google it. And she was talking about, I connected with her, I said, why, what's happening here? Like people are grieving for you, she goes, I hope so, because I need to raise awareness about how polluted our waters are and it's affecting our offspring. And so we had quite, so as long as we approach them with respect, deep respect and not an ego thing, but as an equal, they will educate us. So as long as it's about education, as long as it's about from the heart and it's true and they can tell that you're pure in intention, they will talk, but the wildlife, like birds, you name it, they would rather not.

Dan: That's my experience. You talked before about Reiki, you talked about energy. Are you able to take the skills that you've strengthened and adapt that to communicate with people on a different level? Or no, it is strictly animals.

Karen: No, that's so great because I do, and I'm practicing on communicating with people who are either passing or who aren't able to communicate. I'm practicing that now because really energy is energy and we are animals and I just figured, well, it makes sense. We're animals, they're animals. Why wouldn't I be able to communicate to a higher self of a person? So if you've heard of the telepathy tapes, they talk about, yes, okay. So they talk about communicating with people who have had strokes. And I was listening to it, it's like, well, of course, that makes complete sense to me. Why wouldn't I? So I have permission to work with somebody and I'm practicing that.

Dan: That is really cool. Until you started talking about that, I was like, oh, it would be a really amazing if, and then you start talking about it. That's really neat.

Karen: Yeah, yeah. So it's something that I wouldn't say that I would do it for a living. I'm practicing, I have to shift from human communication versus animal and it's a bit different. So I'm working out the kinks, so to speak.

Dan: If someone wants to do what you're doing, and I recognize this is going to be different for everybody, but just very generally speaking, if someone wants to do what you are doing, how much time do they need to invest in this in developing their skills? Is this like, it's going to take months, it's going to take years, it's going to take closer to a decade. Generally speaking, if someone wants to do what you're doing, how long does it take them?

Karen: Well, you're right, it is very individual. It can take months to years, to decades. I'm still learning. I mean, I'm going to be continually be a student of animal communication and telepathy. The animals are still teaching me. I would say if you want to just start talking to your cat and you want to know why they do X, Y, and Z, then I would say do a weekend workshop and learn how to turn that on again, because we were born with it. Babies know how to still communicate telepathically to other babies. I remember when my first, my two older granddaughters, when they were babies, I was able to connect with them and talk with them using telepathy. Now that they're older, I can't do that anymore, right? Because they have to be open to it too, right? But I mean, so it takes years. If you want to use this as a, it's not like, oh, I'm going to learn how to type and become an assistant. It's not that. It's a lifetime journey, but to make a living out of this, I would say it takes years of developing your skills as well as practicing, as well as developing a network of connections.

Dan: All right, that's awesome information. One of the things I like to do is, if someone is looking to, especially transition, if they want to transition from one career to another, if this is something that no pun intended speaks to them, they can start to think, okay, well, this is going to take me some time to really develop this. So I might not want to quit my job in three weeks. I might want to play a little better.

Karen: No, no, I didn't quit my job. As I said, I left the agency in 2015. I started this in 2012. And I, yeah, so I had a plan and I knew what I wanted to do and I did the plan and I had to really mark out, this is what I have to do by this point in time. This is what I have to do in this point in time. This is what I have to do in this point in time in order to be able to then transition and retire. So I was working full time while doing a few hours here and there and that took a few years. And then I was able to, the last six months of being with the agency, doing it part-time. And then I realized, okay, I think I can do this. But I wouldn't say it's going to be quick money because it's not, you have to develop a reputation that people can count on that. What you're saying is as accurate as possible.

Dan: So let's hang on that for a second. When it comes to networking, what are some of the ways that you've grown your network, how do you find those people that are going to refer you out, aside from clients essentially? But getting started, what is the best way to kind of start to carve your own path and get going?

Karen: Rescues, rescues, rescues. Yeah, it's like I've done these workshops, I would like to practice, I wanna volunteer my time. Can you ask me some questions you'd like to know about this cat or this dog or this horse and see what comes up for you. But practice, practice, practice with the rescues, with friends, animals who you don't know all that well. Volunteer your time, that is the best way. When you get involved with the rescues, people who are running the rescues will see just how great a job you're doing and then they'll recommend you to their friends. And the word of mouth is like fire. I have done very little advertising. I really, you know, it's word of mouth, 100%.

Dan: That is really, really good to know. Okay, so changing gears slightly, aside from the obvious, what are some unexpected perks that come along in doing what you're doing?

Karen: I've made some great friends. Honestly, like I have some lifelong friends out of this, like-minded. Well, of course, love for animals, but just that really great connection. And I'm like, wow, had I not done this, had I not had this client and met this client, we would have never become friends, right? So that was an unexpected thing. And that has been wonderful. And I'm talking about friends around the globe, not just in Canada or North America. Like it's pretty cool that we'll stay in touch. And then years later, they'll send me pictures. So they'll send pictures out of their newborns or of their new animals or whatever. So we get to stay in touch. And I know that if I go to that country, I have a place to stay as well. So it's that kind of friendship. Another perk I would say is that I, oh, wow. That's such a good question. It would be the animals, they've taught me so much. They taught me, the biggest lesson I learned is that when it comes to the animal passing away, they experience it as just taking off their coat. Literally, they're just taking off their fur coat and they say, do you cry when you take off your raincoat? No, well, that's exactly what we're doing. We're literally taking off our raincoat and we just walk out of it. It's just that your eyes don't vibrate at the frequency that we exist in energy. And they've shown me that they go over the rainbow bridge. There is a rainbow bridge. I can confirm that they go over the rainbow bridge and then they go into what's called the rainbow pasture where all animals get to live together harmoniously and they learn off of each other. They do a debrief of what their life was like. They learn about, if I was a cat, but I wanna be a horse, then I'll go to the horse and say, what do I need to learn about being a horse? I mean, it's so, I call it going to school to learn to be another species, but it gets really intricate. So for me, I have a different take about death and dying when it comes to the animals. And it's shifted my perspective of the whole life experience of the human, of humans and our loved ones dying. It really has. And it's given me peace of mind and comfort as well. So that's been a big, big perk of this.

Dan: Karen, all this has been just really, really good information, but unfortunately I am running out of time. Before I hand the floor over to you, I just wanna take a second and thank Laura Van Tyne for introducing us. Laura was in episode 143 as an exorcist. So everyone, please go check that one out. The link is in the description. Karen, this is the part of the show where I'd like to offer my guests the opportunity to talk about a project they're working on, a cause they believe in, more about their business. So if there's something specific you'd like to discuss, the floor's yours.

Karen: We work closely with the Happy Herd Farm Sanctuary, just about an hour east of Vancouver in Abbotsford, Langley Abbotsford, and they take in abused farm animals, neglected farm animals, rescue farm animals from the SPCA, whatever have you. They do a phenomenal job of taking care of every animal that comes to them. And so my cause is just raising awareness to this farm sanctuary and the incredible work that they do. And so they can look up the Happy Herd Farm Sanctuary online and see the incredible work and how they support the disabled, like if they can't use their back legs, they use wheelchairs, how they accommodate, and the animals' journeys themselves. So that's my biggest cause and that's what we support.

Dan: Karen, that is an amazing cause. I'll make sure I get links from you. I'll put them on the website. They'll be at the show description. They'll be all over the place when people are trying to find it, they can. If there's a donate link, I'll also throw that on the webpage as well, see if we can encourage that a little bit. But Karen, it's been absolutely awesome having you on Time We Discuss and We learned all about animal telepathy.

Karen: Thank you for having me. This was such a blast. I really appreciate it, Dan.